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Used EV’s selling quicker than used gas cars

Discussion in 'General' started by Boman Forklift, Nov 12, 2025.

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  1. rohorn

    rohorn Well-Known Member

    Now THIS is an EV with bad wrap:

    Tesla Model S with BAD WRAP.jpg
     
  2. A. Barrister

    A. Barrister Well-Known Member

    Maybe she is...
     
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  3. TurboBlew

    TurboBlew EeVee range testor and subsidy recipient

    or the hitching posts removed so parking/charging stations can be installed
     
  4. pickled egg

    pickled egg Well-Known Member

    Send me her digits…



















    And her rates. ;)
     
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  5. rohorn

    rohorn Well-Known Member

    The fat cats from Big Saddle (R) lobbied against that. There were memes about that pasted on telegraph poles.
     
  6. cu260r6

    cu260r6 Well-Known Member

    We have all been taxed for decades to provide subsidies to the oil industry to produce the fuel for your cars: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/sep/09/fossil-fuels-subisidies-study

    And that doesn't include the trillions we have wasted on foreign wars for oil that would be unnecessary in an EV world.

    EVs are the patriotic option for anyone who really wants to put America first.
     
  7. cu260r6

    cu260r6 Well-Known Member

    Again responding with a single anecdote to counter industry wide statistics, sigh.

    I have the same car rebranded as a Kia EV6. In 46k miles, the only thing I've replaced is the 12v battery once and the tires once. It is so much more reliable not having to worry about the block freezing below zero in the winter or it overheating towing at 100+ temps in the summer.

    I get 300 miles for $7.50 in electricity and have saved more on gas than my car payment costs.

    Always an alternative anecdote...
     
  8. YamahaRick

    YamahaRick Yamaha Two Stroke Czar

    So where do we get the energy to power the EVs? And don't say Solar (unless you want to confirm your infinite stupidity)
     
  9. Venom51

    Venom51 John Deere Equipment Expert - Not really

    Hell, I'd just be happy if he could manage to acknowledge that not very much of the materials or the batteries being produced are coming directly from the US. He's happy to depend on other countries for his patriotism I guess.
     
  10. cu260r6

    cu260r6 Well-Known Member

    This is like answering easily Google-able questions for a child. But why? But why? :D

    48% of my utility's energy comes from renewables. Due to storage, I use a greater percentage of that when charging at night. Regardless, even if 100% came from coal it would still be more efficient and less polluting than an ICE gas engine due to economies of scale.

    A gallon of gas has 36kw of energy. A similar SUV ICE car wastes about 70% of that and gets 20mpg ish. My car has a 77kw battery (essentially two gallons worth of energy) and gets an honest 300 miles range. The EV is seven times as efficient.
     
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  11. nd4spd

    nd4spd Well-Known Member

    Data Centers all over the country, built but can’t get electricity.

    These two threads are related.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/blackrock-eyes-38-billion-acquisition-073000685.html

    https://www.reuters.com/sustainabil...s-boost-minnesota-approves-buyout-2025-10-03/

    https://www.macrotrends.net/3163/us-electricity-prices

    We could get a lot more out of our existing grid and generation capacity with large scale batteries at sub stations. Disperse power from batteries to endpoints and run plants at consistent generation capacity to recharge batteries instead of spooling up/down trying to anticipate demand.

    Enabling bi-directional use of EVs to do this on mass scale would add additional resiliency to the grid. It would only work in areas with a high enough density of EVs and enough smarts in the homes to only supply essential functions such as lights and food storage. The tech is there but the NIMBYs would never go along with it.

    Prices on EVs will plummet even more when rates go up another 30-50%. Probably more in some areas.
     
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  12. pickled egg

    pickled egg Well-Known Member

    What’s all that plastic your batteries are surrounded by get made with again?

    Idiot.
     
  13. pickled egg

    pickled egg Well-Known Member

    And wouldn’t it be great to jump in your EV, only to discover that the battery has been depleted to power “the grid”, and you don’t have enough juice to get to work?

    That’s the world I want. Where I get to see a $5 sticking out of my gas tank door for the gas that someone siphoned because they needed it more than me. :rolleyes:
     
  14. Boman Forklift

    Boman Forklift Well-Known Member

    I was thinking the same, and what about the lost charge cycles? Lithium batteries are much better versus lead acid batteries on allowing multiple charge cycles and partial charge cycles, but now I am wearing out my personal car battery for everyone to have a more consistent power supply? NO THANKS!
     
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  15. cu260r6

    cu260r6 Well-Known Member

    Always a slippery slope argument from the haters. :crackup:
     
  16. cu260r6

    cu260r6 Well-Known Member

    We are not running out. Renewable energy is essentially limitless. Covering the equivalent of just 1.3% of the Sahara desert in solar would satisfy the world's total energy needs. http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2022/ph240/jafar2/
     
  17. Venom51

    Venom51 John Deere Equipment Expert - Not really

    The distribution of battery capacity to avoid power suppliers from having to build and maintain large banks is a method to keep me from having to pay for it as a customer and pay for it again as a driver. I'd rather pay for it once. Battery chemistry for me is the big hurdle to that. The car can always be programmed to retain a certain percentage of the charge.
     
  18. Venom51

    Venom51 John Deere Equipment Expert - Not really

    This bullshit again. You can indeed produce a shit ton there.

    Now get it somewhere it can be used without massive losses.
     
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  19. Boman Forklift

    Boman Forklift Well-Known Member

    Yea, haven't we covered that 5.999 times in other threads already. And in one of them the article he linked gave different numbers vs what he was saying. I think that electricity is going to Tesla Tower itself over to Colorado for him.
     
  20. pickled egg

    pickled egg Well-Known Member

    Perhaps it can be.

    But perhapser, the “powers that be” have override capabilities for the “good of society”…
     
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