The perils of Montana plates

Cooter! said:
They will try to nail WD to the stake for not having his company 'really' based in Montana, we'll see if it sticks for an internet based company. Like a corporation 'in New Jersey', or an aircraft certification from Greece. They aren't loopholes, it is simply following the rules of a more friendly .gov.

I live in CA, I'm very aware state greed. 70¢ per gallon is state tax. $180 reg for an old motorcycle. $210 for a 50 year old car!? and add 10% every time I buy one!? $1200/yr for an LLC? What for? What am I getting for that?

They deserve to be forced to be reasonable, or at least a nationally equal set of rules.
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It still sucks, but Corps and LLC’s are $800 year not $1200. Or at least that’s what it was when I paid my taxes April 15th and I haven’t heard they raised it?
 
23103a said:
I feel like you think this is the 1st time this has ever happened. CHP here has had a task force for 20 years who go after people with out of state reg.
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Read my comment; there is already case law on the books in favor of the MT loophole; WD is just significantly more thrust into the public eye.
 
I looked into doing this for my motorhome, but TX (and Travis county specifically, apparently) are hardasses about "any vehicle used in TX by a TX resident must be registered in TX" even if it's already registered in another state.

For out-of-state vehicles and users, there is a 30 day stay limit - so even if I did some sham "it's owned by an out-of-state LLC" thing (which they would pierce anyway), I am realistically not going to leave the state every 29 days. From the stories I've heard, they'll actually ask you to prove that you left... an out-of-state fuel receipt or etc.

TX acts conservative, but they want their fuggin vig. Bitchass bitches
 
tophyr said:
I looked into doing this for my motorhome, but TX (and Travis county specifically, apparently) are hardasses about "any vehicle used in TX by a TX resident must be registered in TX" even if it's already registered in another state.

For out-of-state vehicles and users, there is a 30 day stay limit - so even if I did some sham "it's owned by an out-of-state LLC" thing (which they would pierce anyway), I am realistically not going to leave the state every 29 days. From the stories I've heard, they'll actually ask you to prove that you left... an out-of-state fuel receipt or etc.

TX acts conservative, but they want their fuggin vig. Bitchass bitches
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How is it a sham? There is an out of state company, that owns a vehicle, and is used in TX? I would ask the county when the last time they "raided" the local hertz, Avis, Budget, etc..... And I would bet Google, Tesla and other big azz companies with offices there have a couple vehicles registered somewhere else as well.

Im not yelling at you, but this is the kind of thing i wish someone with enough money would fight them on.
 
A. Barrister said:
Isn't there a reason a lot of companies are Delaware based, and specifically referred to as "Delaware" companies?
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the state is very favorable to companies due to extra legal protections and better corporate tax rates. So many companies are incorporated there it allows the state to basically wipe out state sales tax

it’s also a good state to register your Challenger or Gulfstream.
 
Jed said:
So pulling a fast one on the man just shifts the tax burden to the people who are paying theirs dues. It's a dick move. Just like people who skip out on hospital bills because they think they're too high. The burden gets shifted to those who pay up.

Yesterday's count - 3 Beyagas and a Urus plated in GA. And a challenger with MT plates.
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StaccatoFan said:
I’m going to disagree, respecfully. I see it as a smart citizen looking at an unreasonable fee and seeking alternative. Build a mousetrap…the mouse gets smarter.
As for Montana, they’re smart enough to keep their registration laws friendly to this to get outside dollars into their state. It’s Free Market.

Notice how all the trucking companies tag their trailers in Maine? Maine is smart. My small trailer is also tagged in Maine. It was $100 for 5 years….Maryland wants $100 every year. Maryland should be cheaper because we have so many more people than Maine to maintain our state highways.

Screw Maryland.
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^what he said. One is choosing to get a service from a private entity. Don’t like the price? You are free to seek alternatives.

One is blatant theft with a gun to your head (figuratively but potentially also literally).
 
Bottom line, regardless of any state/vehicle..Its just another ass-rape American tax. I mean why stop at vehicles? Start from the womb! Stamp something on us from year to year that we paid existence tax. It would make as much sense.Or just send someone to pick me up by my ankles on Fridays and shake the shit outta me til money falls out? I applaud anyone that can F- a tax
 
ToofPic said:
Bottom line, regardless of any state/vehicle..Its just another ass-rape American tax. I mean why stop at vehicles? Start from the womb! Stamp something on us from year to year that we paid existence tax. It would make as much sense.Or just send someone to pick me up by my ankles on Fridays and shake the shit outta me til money falls out? I applaud anyone that can F- a tax
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somebody can correct me if i'm wrong, but i'm pretty sure VA, along with yearly safety inspections, has a personal property tax on vehicles yearly commensurate with their value, which may or may not be at the county level i dunno. yearly tax on goods you already own is always cute (beyond property taxes). i just feel like i remember always hearing this from people who live in Fairfax, which would be the place i'd end up i guess if i ever moved across the river (i won't).
 
In Maine it's called the excise tax, paid yearly as part of registration. It's not based on current value but instead MSRP with a decreasing mil rate over 6 years, after 6 years the fee is fixed.
 
tophyr said:
I looked into doing this for my motorhome, but TX (and Travis county specifically, apparently) are hardasses about "any vehicle used in TX by a TX resident must be registered in TX" even if it's already registered in another state.

For out-of-state vehicles and users, there is a 30 day stay limit - so even if I did some sham "it's owned by an out-of-state LLC" thing (which they would pierce anyway), I am realistically not going to leave the state every 29 days. From the stories I've heard, they'll actually ask you to prove that you left... an out-of-state fuel receipt or etc.

TX acts conservative, but they want their fuggin vig. Bitchass bitches
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My suspicion is most states are going to go a similar route, and likely work with the federales to make an example out of some people who are using their personal vehicle through a Montana/SD registered LLC.

They're going to go after those people for tax fraud/evasion, which at a federal level gets you a direct ticket to Pound Me In The Ass Prison.
 
I know when Billy Ethridge was alive,we had a talk about the tags on his RV.He explained a loophole in Montana,or one of those empty lonely states was dirt cheap,and he
had been registering it there.Trucking companies are big offenders too,if you look at all the identical state tags on trailers especially.

The Whistlin Diesel video was pretty fun to watch on how hard he got pinched. He's so pissed off he claimed he was gonna buy property in the state he was ticketed from?
and register the shit out of everything he bought there.I thought he gave a pretty good speech,if you haven't seen the video. And he was indeed targeted.
Ga. came mostly clean, a few years back. You pay the initial hard hit on the purchase, then the remaining years its something like $25? I forget the yearly amount.
So instead of a yearly ass reem, they just slip you a finger, and a pat on the back! :)
CA is a whole different monster. I have no idea what that's gonna do to me? The girlfriend got a new car, and I bought a Stinger last Friday. The tags are already paid until 2026?
I don't get it, but I'm sure I will find out come next May. The original tags stay with whatever you buy, and the tab you pay will always be from the original purchase month of the
vehicle, not you're birthday :confused:
 
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