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As a slow nobody that’s turned some rain laps there, the big pay day tipped the scales too much.
Rock and hard place for everyone.
 
badmoon692008 said:
The Track was hot until after 8pm the night before with daylight finally starting the fade and they called the race at like 530 pm... plenty of time left
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No, the hard cut off time is 8:00. They had planned to have qualifying go into the late hours.
As for Saturday, they probably wanted to end by 5:00. I work for USCRA, and after 5:00 you pay overtime for ambulances.
 
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I was working tech, Josh Hayes ran in asking where he needed to go to get a wristband to get out on the hot pit. I was thinking uhhh... Don't they know who you are??? :crackup:
 
I've watched the up to the 3rd, I think, red flag. Now I have to go see if they have the rest of the race posted up.
 
WERA552 said:
I was working tech, Josh Hayes ran in asking where he needed to go to get a wristband to get out on the hot pit. I was thinking uhhh... Don't they know who you are??? :crackup:
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I was headed to Safety Services and Shane Narbonne hitched a ride from me. Security wouldn't let him drive through the tunnel.
 
Gecko said:
Naa, there was still plenty of daylight. I’m still trying to digest everything I saw and heard up there yesterday. Suffice it to say, it was not the one NEMRR staff’s finer moments and hope this *new* organization can get past these growing pains (which, unfortunately, were on full display at this event which had national exposure).
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Josh [Kurlon], I don’t believe it had anything to do with the town requirements (especially for a Saturday). If it was, race direction would have used that as a justification instead of what was said over the loudspeaker just before the winner circle. Not sure if you heard it or not, but I and others just shook our heads.

Knarf Legna ~ stopped by your pit a few times, but didn’t see ya … didn’t help I have no idea what you look like either though. Brandon was doing great on that last red flag. I was really pulling for him. The decision to call the race (for the second and final time) was not right. The rule to not finish on a red flag was put in place to resolve a prior conflict which had arose (not too long ago either). I (and many others I talked with) believe it was an unjust, unfair, and an inconsistent decision, but our opinions matters not to the decision of the one in authority. Not sure whether Brandon would have been able to beat Blake or Tyler, but he should have been given the opportunity. He was really in the hunt. I truly believe whatever the result, the last two lap finish would have been epic and unforgettable. The racers and the fans had that taken away from them (which was the genesis for that rule in the first place).

I was also really pulling for Hayes. I have to say, his riding in those conditions (knowing what I know and have experienced on this track) was just that much better than the rest of the field … so smooth, so in control, very impressive … right up until he got caught out. Not sure if Josh was just letting it all hang out, and the others were holding back and biding their time … but it certainly did look like Blake and Tyler were trying hard not to let Josh slip away at the front.

I thought all the MA guys were great, nice, friendly. Most that I or others talked to seemed to like the track. Maybe they were just being respectful to our home track. Some said it reminded them of other smaller tracks they really enjoyed. Said it was fun. Others were candid and said when they first got on it they hated it, but then as they did more laps, and kind of figured it out, they started to really enjoy and like the track. They were really positive. Not one comment that it was too “sketchy” or way “too dangerous to ever come back.”

I guess my hope is that this is the takeaway from this Classic event. Notwithstanding the issues with the NEMRR race direction, the track is better/safer now than back when Mladdin, as echoed by 27, said “its way too dangerous to ever go back there again too race.” The track continues to make improvements, and *should* continue to improve. To let a comment made over 20+ years ago define what the track is today isn’t just, fair, or accurate.
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Mladin was a knob. I had the pleasure of shushing him twice at the AMA riders meeting at the last national at Loudon. He was so pissed he turned purple, so I did it a second time. He wasn’t treated well by the locals!
I’ve been away from the Loudon series for a good many years and have been considering making the investment/effort in coming back a few rounds per season. My observation that a red flag will be thrown as soon as a bike hits the deck gives me pause. It happened in a majority of the Friday club races also. After red flags were thrown in the first three races, the laps were cut from 8 to 5. In looking at the results for Sunday’s races, they were 5 laps also. I’m sure a few red flags were warranted. A few per weekend used to happen 20 years ago, when there were 2x-3x the number of riders racing. I’m absolutely a believer in track safety, but throwing them instantly on the first lap is too much. It’s seems as if there is a mandate in place, not a criteria for assessing each discreet incident.
 
mg15 said:
Mladin was a knob. I had the pleasure of shushing him twice at the AMA riders meeting at the last national at Loudon. He was so pissed he turned purple, so I did it a second time. He wasn’t treated well by the locals!
I’ve been away from the Loudon series for a good many years and have been considering making the investment/effort in coming back a few rounds per season. My observation that a red flag will be thrown as soon as a bike hits the deck gives me pause. It happened in a majority of the Friday club races also. After red flags were thrown in the first three races, the laps were cut from 8 to 5. In looking at the results for Sunday’s races, they were 5 laps also. I’m sure a few red flags were warranted. A few per weekend used to happen 20 years ago, when there were 2x-3x the number of riders racing. I’m absolutely a believer in track safety, but throwing them instantly on the first lap is too much. It’s seems as if there is a mandate in place, not a criteria for assessing each discreet incident.
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Twenty years ago it was a completely different crew there.
We didn't throw reds unless there was no choice.
Things have changed.
 
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