I'm about to pull the trigger!

Cannoli said:
It's just easier on Windows based machines to take advantage of the poorly written code. MAC's are based on UNIX which has had 40+ years of refinement. Most of the security risks are directed at vulnerabilities in open ports and services, which is cross platform.
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The only factor is that nobody gives enough a damn about macs to attack them. If their install base keeps increasing then this will change rapidly.
 
jkhonea said:
Really? 13.3" aluminum case, 2.53 Duo processor, 4gb ram, 250gb hard drive, Nvidia 9400M video card. Please show me where that $1499 is just horrendously more expensive than another laptop once its truly optioned out the same. And I do mean the SAME specs.
Oh, and please let me know which of these laptops will push 7 hours per charge not on the internet or viewing DVD's. And this really is pushing that kind of time on a charge with word processing, not net work.
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13.3"? Is it a netbook?

I'll take a thinkpad over a mac any day of the week.

As for the windows haters:

1) mostly it's 3rd party apps that cause windows problem. Not always, but mostly.

2) why are people with macs always so concerned about it running windows? If your mac OS is so wonderful........just use it. :)
 
Sig said:
13.3"? Is it a netbook?

I'll take a thinkpad over a mac any day of the week.

As for the windows haters:

1) mostly it's 3rd party apps that cause windows problem. Not always, but mostly.

2) why are people with macs always so concerned about it running windows? If your mac OS is so wonderful........just use it. :)
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Same reason people used to be concerned about running graphics programs on pc's when they were mac specific. If people would write their programs for both platforms it wouldn't be a big deal, you know, like M$ does...
 
Sig said:
13.3"? Is it a netbook?

I'll take a thinkpad over a mac any day of the week.

As for the windows haters:

1) mostly it's 3rd party apps that cause windows problem. Not always, but mostly.

2) why are people with macs always so concerned about it running windows? If your mac OS is so wonderful........just use it. :)
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No, its not a netbook, its a regular laptop. And I've always had Windows machines up until now. The ONLY reason I use Boot Camp is to run Softplan, my architecture software. Its is Windows only. Every other program I run is Mac. It simply runs better and much faster than Windows.
And I've owned Thinkpads also and honestly don't think they are anywhere near in the same league qualitywise as the Mac is now. Judging by a lot of the reviews and feedback I've been reading, quality isn't the same it used to be with Thinkpads.
 
steeltoe said:
Still getting a chuckle from folks buying macs and ditching the native OS for MS creations. :D
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Read above, didn't ditch the native OS. Use the native for all except one program that I have no choice on. And the Windows on the Boot Camp side of the Mac is running much faster than it was on my other notebook.
 
jkhonea said:
And I've owned Thinkpads also and honestly don't think they are anywhere near in the same league qualitywise as the Mac is now. Judging by a lot of the reviews and feedback I've been reading, quality isn't the same it used to be with Thinkpads.
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You mean Lenovo? After prepping year after year of new and old laptops I've yet to see one fail. Absolutely among the best quality available. If it can be broken, one of my field adjusters can do it.:D Every bit as good as the Thinkpads of old.
 
steeltoe said:
You mean Lenovo? After prepping year after year of new and old laptops I've yet to see one fail. Absolutely among the best quality available. If it can be broken, one of my field adjusters can do it.:D Every bit as good as the Thinkpads of old.
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Yesterday I was in one of my many meetings. For giggles I summed up what notebooks everyone had.

12 people. 9 had Levono's. 2 Dells and 1 Toshiba.

And no its not because we get a good deal on Levono's.
 
Sig said:
As for the windows haters:

1) mostly it's 3rd party apps that cause windows problem. Not always, but mostly.
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is that why microsoft releases security patches for their OS on the second tuesday of each month?

Sig said:
2) why are people with macs always so concerned about it running windows? If your mac OS is so wonderful........just use it. :)
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as other have mentioned, most people do it just run a specific app.

my "run-windows-virtually" app is quicken for windows... why don't i run quicken for mac? 'cause it sucks*...

it's never been feature-equal with q4w and, if you can look over that "small" fact, there is no migration path for your data between q4w and q4m. i know, unbelievable...

i've auditioned all the mac-native financial solutions and, unfortunately, nothing compares to q4w.

*quicken sucks so bad on mac that intuit gave up on it and decided to rewrite the whole thing from scratch. the new product, "financial life for mac," isn't even going to be feature-equal with previous q4m iterations! no business features, weak/non-existent investment/loan and reporting capability. and, yup, STILL no migration path from the windows side to the mac side.
 
Interesting, I keep hearing how much the Apple is compared to others. Ran up a Lenovo, lowest end, with somewhat comparable stats. Its a 14.1" instead of 13.3" which is a difference I think is negligible. My oh so expensive MacBook Pro came in at only $100 more. Hmmmm.....
Beyond that, I have the 3 year total protection warranty. Got it for $186. Everyone else's seems to run damn near twice that.
As far as in meetings, Windows is the standard for mainstream business. You'll find a big contributor to that is more business based programs and hardware such as smartphones and pda's being geared to Win. Of course, I have a conduit to translate my Mobile Win to Mac and it works great.
Now, go into a graphic arts and advertising office and see how many Mac's start popping up. That's where things start shifting. Same for when you start checking video editing and production. Its just geared to a different performance sector. Or it has been. Now that the Intel chip is being used, things are changing and its going more mainline.
 
jkhonea said:
Now, go into a graphic arts and advertising office and see how many Mac's start popping up. That's where things start shifting. Same for when you start checking video editing and production. Its just geared to a different performance sector.
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I designed my current rig after the workstations Skywalker Ranch was using at the time. It's not a Mac.:tut:

PS:Industrial Light and Magic used Linux based workstations for the longest time. Dunno what they run now.
 
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steeltoe said:
I designed my current rig after the workstations Skywalker Ranch was using at the time. It's not a Mac.:tut:

PS:Industrial Light and Magic used Linux based workstations for the longest time. Dunno what they run now.
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this is old, but...

http://www.linuxjournal.com/xstatic/articles/060/6011/6011s1.html

ILM is comfortable with multiple platforms. Its 1,400 employees use a variety of operating systems. The art department has Macs, with the rotoscopers and painters transitioning to OS X. Hendrickson sees OS X as a possible player. “What attracts us is the BSD-like Darwin core and network compatibility.” ILM has few Windows boxes, besides those on business side. “There's no advantage to a Windows conversion for us”, says Hendrickson. “We're a UNIX shop and probably always will be.”
 
jkhonea said:
OK, you win, you're all knowing. Windows wins, Macs blow. Happy now?
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Finally someone with some sense. :D


I posted the example to show that in the meetings in the company in the group with the people who produce Windows, Lenovo is the laptop of choice. Yes choice.
 
Mr Sunshine said:
Finally someone with some sense. :D


I posted the example to show that in the meetings in the company in the group with the people who produce Windows, Lenovo is the laptop of choice. Yes choice.
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OK, I missed the part about people who PRODUCE Windows. Of course they won't be using the Mac. I thought that was the brunt of the conversation, not what the better Windows notebook was.
 
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