2024 Daytona 200 aka Big D

Used2befast said:
It shouldn't matter who breaks them...but there is a litany of rules. Some for fairness and some for safety.

Let's explore a safety rule.

Pit lane speed of 37mph.

Good rule to keep those in a hot pit from being injured or killed. I noticed 1 or more individuals with multiple violations of this rule in multiple classes. Violation of the rule equals...a repeated monetary fine? What's your goal motoamerica...peoples safety or $$?
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The fines all go to RRW action fund - so safety...
 
Mongo said:
The fines all go to RRW action fund - so safety...
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Changing behaviors should take precedence over buying Airfence, IMO. And you know I don't hate Airfence. If that keeps happening, it makes it look like the fine is not a deterrent but just money collection, regardless of what it buys.
 
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HPPT said:
Changing behaviors should take precedence over buying Airfence, IMO. And you know I don't hate Airfence. If that keeps happening, it makes it look like the fine is not a deterrent and money collection, regardless of what it buys.
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Excellent!!!
 
HPPT said:
Changing behaviors should take precedence over buying Airfence, IMO. And you know I don't hate Airfence. If that keeps happening, it makes it look like the fine is not a deterrent and money collection, regardless of what it buys.
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I think the fines are because they're not coming in at a seriously high rate of speed but are coming in over the limit. It's not as huge a problem as he wants it to be over all those classes and so on. If it were they'd change the penalty - I do also think that the penalty ramps up if you don't learn but haven't looked into the specifics of speeding on pit lane.
 
And yes, we do the same thing with fines for some stuff and stiffer penalties depending on the infraction or number of times for the same infraction and so on.
 
Used2befast said:
It shouldn't matter who breaks them...but there is a litany of rules. Some for fairness and some for safety.

Let's explore a safety rule.

Pit lane speed of 37mph.

Good rule to keep those in a hot pit from being injured or killed. I noticed 1 or more individuals with multiple violations of this rule in multiple classes. Violation of the rule equals...a repeated monetary fine? What's your goal motoamerica...peoples safety or $$?
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I think the Pit Lane speed of 37mph at Daytona is way too slow. They do the race start on pit lane. 60 mph seem much more reasonable.
 
Mongo said:
I think the fines are because they're not coming in at a seriously high rate of speed but are coming in over the limit. It's not as huge a problem as he wants it to be over all those classes and so on. If it were they'd change the penalty - I do also think that the penalty ramps up if you don't learn but haven't looked into the specifics of speeding on pit lane.
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$150 fine per incident. If you get dinged enough times you get a visit from the stewards with threats of further sanctions. Don't ask me how I know. :)
 
Electronics are useful but not foolproof. First, the limiter must be engaged by the rider with a button. Once engaged it can be manually disengaged with the same button, or by shifting above a predetermined gear. So for example if the pit limiter is engaged in 1st gear it will be automatically disengaged by shifting into 2nd. So discipline by the rider is required which may at times be in short supply depending on circumstances. Specifying a higher disengagement gear can cause problems by loading fuel and fouling plugs and impacting performance depending on the fuel/ignition cut parameters. It can be a delicate balance. Sometimes you will see that a bike is difficult to restart on pit lane after using the limiter as a result.
 
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